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[QUOTE="Ward, post: 1470638, member: 1958"]
The answer to the question posed in your last sentence is a resounding no, which hurts the Patriots in the scope of today's ESPN report. Why should we believe, after Goodell handled everything else so poorly, that he was being truthful about the severity of Spygate when there is some real gray area around it now/always.

In regards to your reply to my other post that the Pats would have lost all of those games if it weren't for cheating is not what I was saying at all. That was the classic hyperbole filled reply Pats fans tend to give which hurts their credibility in communicating otherwise valid points. Every piece doesn't have to be tied to an absolute result. Obviously with Brady under center the Pats very well could have won many of those games regardless of if they did the alleged things or not. You say why did they win so much after they were caught when I could easily say they never won another SB until they were allegedly caught breaking another rule that gave them a competitive advantage.

Everything isn't an absolute one way or the other. The Pats could have violated rules and basic sportsmanship/ethics in their incredible run they've been on the last 10-15 years that undoubtedly gave them a material edge in very big games. They also have had great players and great teams that won a lot of games and would have regardless of if they did anything like they're being accused of. The problem the league and many fans have is that there are quite a few fan bases and franchises who will never know what could've been if the playing field was level.
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