Change Ad Consent
Do not sell my daa
Reply to thread | Syracusefan.com
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
Featured content
New posts
New media
New media comments
New resources
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Resources
Latest reviews
Search resources
Media
Daily Orange Sports
ACC Network Channel Numbers
Syracuse.com Sports
Cuse.com
Pages
Football Pages
7th Annual Cali Award Predictions
2024 Roster / Depth Chart [Updated 8/26/24]
Syracuse University Football/TV Schedules
Syracuse University Football Commits
Syracuse University Football Recruiting Database
Syracuse Football Eligibility Chart
Basketball Pages
SU Men's Basketball Schedule
Syracuse Men's Basketball Recruiting Database
Syracuse University Basketball Commits
2024/25 Men's Basketball Roster
NIL
SyraCRUZ Tailgate NIL
Military Appreciation Syracruz Donation
ORANGE UNITED NIL
SyraCRUZ kickoff challenge
Special VIP Opportunity
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Forums
Syracuse Athletics
Syracuse Men's Basketball Board
Brent Axe says Reds job should be in jeopardy
.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
[QUOTE="RF2044, post: 5372021, member: 40"] To be clear, I'm not saying we'll never be back. And I think it is completely fair to point to 2015 -- a nice round 10 years -- as the inflection point for the decline. Not only was that the year when the NCAA announced that they were investigating us, but we also suffered through a poor season that culminated with us self-imposing a post-season ban [we wouldn't have qualified for the NCAA tournament anyway, so that self-penalization was kind of hollow]. In the 5 years leading up to 2015, we were: [LIST] [*]A #1 seed in the NCAA tournament twice [*]Ranked #1 or #2 in 3 different seasons [*]Enjoyed a 30-1 regular season [*]Started a season 25-0 [*]Made both an Elite 8 and a Final 4 [/LIST] Since 2015, we've: [LIST] [*]Missed the postseason 6 out of 10 seasons, including three consecutive years leading up to now [*]Have had double digit losses all 10 seasons, including: [LIST] [*]14 losses 4 times [*]15 losses twice [*]17 losses once [*]19 losses [this year] [/LIST] [*]Suffered our first two losing seasons in 50+ years [*]Haven't qualified for the NCAA tournament 5 out of 6 years [one was COVID, but we wouldn't have made it] [*]Barely qualified for the ACC tournament [/LIST] 2015 is also the line in the sand in terms of JB's winning percentage shifting dramatically. The first 38 years, JB won approximately 74% of his games. The last 8, that percentage dipped to ~54%. We also had a losing record in the ACC conference over that time. We haven't been ranked in the regular season since something like 2018 -- think about that for a second. It's a lot more than "since 2022." Couching it that way is the "boiling frog" metaphor that got brought up in a recent thread. It rationalizes away that the program was losing altitude over an extended period of time. We didn't just drop off of a cliff, with the decline being a short term thing -- it has been a lengthy, steady slide into irrelevancy. We weren't irrelevant at the beginning of this stretch, but that's our station now, relative to the P4. And therein lies the rub -- over the past 10 years, we've lost between 12-15 games every year. We haven't been ranked in 5+ years. We have a losing ACC conference record over that span. And this year, we're close to the bottom of the standings in the conference. I get that we're Syracuse, a storied program with the seventh highest win total overall. But if this isn't irrelevancy, I don't know what is. I agree with Scooch's post above -- the occasional highlights [which mostly all occurred within the first 5 years of the 10 year decline] helped mask the direction we were trending, and were used by many to dispute that JB had lost several MPH's off of his fastball. But several of those seasons where we had a postseason run came during years where we barely qualified for the NCAA tournament. As a program, we've struggled for a LONG time. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
What is a Syracuse fan's favorite color?
Post reply
Forums
Syracuse Athletics
Syracuse Men's Basketball Board
Brent Axe says Reds job should be in jeopardy
Top
Bottom