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[QUOTE="wfschrec, post: 1499431, member: 361"]
We hear this same thing every year ... then Clemson or FSU goes out and smokes someone in a bowl game that is considered superior ... last year without Watson Clemson embarrassed Oklahoma ... and while they didn't overwhealm against ND at least they won the ballgame.  Which is far better than what LSU fared against ND last season and ND is better this year IMHO.  I think ACC is a middle of the pack conference but horrible from top to bottom is not accurate.

Miami has defeated Nebraska
Clemson has beaten ND
BC has beaten NIU (who gave OSU quite a scare)
SU has beaten CMU and gave LSU a handful of trouble
Pitts only loss is on the road at Iowa a team who just beat Wisky
UVa gave ND all it could handle
Va Tech pasted Purdue who gave MSU all it could handle
UNC pasted Illinois who appears to be getting better after beating Nebraska in nail biter

There is a lot more football to play and bowl season will help to answer a lot more questions as well.
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