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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 2938394, member: 716"] From what I can tell, Rule 4, Section 15, Article 2 doesn't describe what the video shows: "A flagrant 1 personal foul is a personal foul that is deemed excessive in nature and/or unnecessary, but is not based solely on the severity of the act. Examples include, but are not limited to causing excessive [B]contact[/B] with an opponent, [B]contact[/B] that is not a legitimate attempt to play the ball or player..., pushing or holding a player from behind to prevent a score [BTW, why don't we see more clear-path transition flagrant calls based on this wording?], fouling a player clearly away from the ball who is not directly involved with the play..., [B]contact[/B] with a player making a throw-in, illegal [B]contact[/B] caused by swinging of an elbow which is deemed excessive or unnecessary but does not rise to the level of a flagrant 2 personal foul." See a commonality here? If there's no contact, I don't see how that was the correct call. Flagrant 2 is much simpler - same criteria but contact is "not only excessive but also severe or extreme while the ball is live." There are more technical classifications than any of us non-refs could've guessed: (b)(1)Class A - unsportsmanlike conduct; examples given include profanity, taunting, baiting. (It's not included but I don't see why a missed deliberate elbow wouldn't fall under this violation.) (b)(2)Class B - hanging on the rim. Unless your name is Terrance Roberts, this is never called. Thought #33 earned one of these last night. (d)Flagrant 2 technical foul - "can be either contact or noncontact...(1)when the ball is dead and the contact is not only excessive but also severe and extreme...(2)when the ball is either live or dead and involves extreme, sometimes persistent, vulgar, abusive contact." I suppose this could arguably fall under the second of these. (e)Contact dead ball technical foul - "occurs when the ball is dead and involves contact that is unnecessary, unacceptable, and excessive but does not rise to the level of a flagrant 2 contact technical foul." Nope. Seems to me that this was a Class A tech. Same result, 2 shots and the ball. [/QUOTE]

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