Broyld practicing, AAM still day-to-day

[OrangeXtreme]

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootb...hton_broyld_back_at.html#incart_river_default

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootb...ball_tailback_ado_2.html#incart_river_default

 

[Doctor44]

I'm really disappointed that broyld hasn't been used a whole lot in the wildcat or "stallion." Watching him in the HS state championship he threw the ball as well as any other HS QB i've seen recruited by SU and at least as well as paulus did in HS.

I also think that the bubble screen needs to be utilized more. It's a key play in the spread offense and we need to get our play makes the ball in space. Prince Tyson Gulley, Broyld and kobena should all have the chance to make one guy miss and run the ball up the sideline a couple of times a game. Marrone knows the play has hurt us enough from other teams.

 

[Deano]

It doesn't sound promising for Moore which sucks.

 

[bnoro]

I'm really disappointed that broyld hasn't been used a whole lot in the wildcat or "stallion." Watching him in the HS state championship he threw the ball as well as any other HS QB i've seen recruited by SU and at least as well as paulus did in HS.

I also think that the bubble screen needs to be utilized more. It's a key play in the spread offense and we need to get our play makes the ball in space. Prince Tyson Gulley, Broyld and kobena should all have the chance to make one guy miss and run the ball up the sideline a couple of times a game. Marrone knows the play has hurt us enough from other teams.

When the best player on your offense is your QB, you don't take him out of the game for a gimmick like the wildcat.

Also, apparently you weren't paying attention during the Ron Spence era. No more bubble screens, please.

 

[shandeezy7]

When the best player on your offense is your QB, you don't take him out of the game for a gimmick like the wildcat.

Also, apparently you weren't paying attention during the Ron Spence era. No more bubble screens, please.

I disagree. The problem with the bubble screen in Spence's offense is that it seemed like we ran it 1 out of every 5 plays. In this offense we run it never. Maybe that's a result of corners playing up on our receivers, since we have no true deep threat. However, if the opportunity presents itself, there is nothing wrong with sprinkling in a bubble screen here and there.

 

[upperdeck]

we dont have any RCVRs that really look to be bubble screen guys.. the only one who makes people miss is West and he is not a typical bubble screen guy to take it any distance. if we want to gain 4-5 yds a few times a game thats about all we ever seem to get out of it.

 

[Chip]

When the best player on your offense is your QB, you don't take him out of the game for a gimmick like the wildcat.

Also, apparently you weren't paying attention during the Ron Spence era. No more bubble screens, please.

There's a difference between the Spence bubble screen (always thrown to a WR trying to get thru the middle) and the WR screens/RB swing passes outside that we featured quite a bit in the NW game, but haven't seen much of since. I assume it's still in the back pocket for one of the 4 remaining games. You get safeties cheating in the middle to stop our running game, it should work even better.

 

[bnoro]

There's a difference between the Spence bubble screen (always thrown to a WR trying to get thru the middle) and the WR screens/RB swing passes outside that we featured quite a bit in the NW game, but haven't seen much of since. I assume it's still in the back pocket for one of the 4 remaining games. You get safeties cheating in the middle to stop our running game, it should work even better.

nah I know i was just messing around. but i kind of hate the bubble screen because I'm a Pats fan and we use it ALL THE TIME. I liked that play we ran with Lemon for the first down on Saturday, hope we run that again. I'd prefer just a RB screen though rather than a bubble screen. Too much can go wrong on a bubble screen.

 

[Cuseregular]

I'm really disappointed that broyld hasn't been used a whole lot in the wildcat or "stallion." Watching him in the HS state championship he threw the ball as well as any other HS QB i've seen recruited by SU and at least as well as paulus did in HS.

I also think that the bubble screen needs to be utilized more. It's a key play in the spread offense and we need to get our play makes the ball in space. Prince Tyson Gulley, Broyld and kobena should all have the chance to make one guy miss and run the ball up the sideline a couple of times a game. Marrone knows the play has hurt us enough from other teams.

OMG, where have you been? I need you to stick around and fight that fight with me. I have zero doubt the kid has the ability, at least physically, hopefully we find out next year. Hope to see you more here!

 

[SoBeCuse]

If we had a Welker or Hernandez type here we would be running bubble screens all the time and we would love it.

 

[Chip]

nah I know i was just messing around. but i kind of hate the bubble screen because I'm a Pats fan and we use it ALL THE TIME. I liked that play we ran with Lemon for the first down on Saturday, hope we run that again. I'd prefer just a RB screen though rather than a bubble screen. Too much can go wrong on a bubble screen.

I hated the Spence bubble screen. It was only designed one way, nothing else you can do from it. And you pass to a WR in the middle of a traffic jam and hope there's enough blocking in there to get him out of it. Never really understood why you would run that play more than once a game, if that. Spence ran it at least 10 times per game. Those Clemson fans warned us though, they were right.

 

[JeremyCuse]

When the best player on your offense is your QB, you don't take him out of the game for a gimmick like the wildcat.

Also, apparently you weren't paying attention during the Ron Spence era. No more bubble screens, please.

Agreed about the Spence days but that doesnt mean we forget the play exists and NEVER run it again. Brolyd is made for a Bubble/Junk/Jailbreak/WR screen especially considering how good a blocker Lemon and Sales are downfield.

 

[Cusee44]

I disagree. The problem with the bubble screen in Spence's offense is that it seemed like we ran it 1 out of every 5 plays. In this offense we run it never. Maybe that's a result of corners playing up on our receivers, since we have no true deep threat. However, if the opportunity presents itself, there is nothing wrong with sprinkling in a bubble screen here and there.

USC used it like magic against us. I'm with you on this.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

USC used it like magic against us. I'm with you on this.

It worked liked magic because we were playing two or three deep on every snap, which was creating two blockers and a receiver against two defenders every time.

 

[kuethstheman]

I'm really disappointed that broyld hasn't been used a whole lot in the wildcat or "stallion." Watching him in the HS state championship he threw the ball as well as any other HS QB i've seen recruited by SU and at least as well as paulus did in HS.

I also think that the bubble screen needs to be utilized more. It's a key play in the spread offense and we need to get our play makes the ball in space. Prince Tyson Gulley, Broyld and kobena should all have the chance to make one guy miss and run the ball up the sideline a couple of times a game. Marrone knows the play has hurt us enough from other teams.

According to Rahme, the reason Broyld wasn't playing much was that he was having trouble learning all of his assignments. I imagine adding in the Wildcat would make that even more of a challenge.

 

[syr02esq]

I'm really disappointed that broyld hasn't been used a whole lot in the wildcat or "stallion." Watching him in the HS state championship he threw the ball as well as any other HS QB i've seen recruited by SU and at least as well as paulus did in HS.

I also think that the bubble screen needs to be utilized more. It's a key play in the spread offense and we need to get our play makes the ball in space. Prince Tyson Gulley, Broyld and kobena should all have the chance to make one guy miss and run the ball up the sideline a couple of times a game. Marrone knows the play has hurt us enough from other teams.

Bubble screens at SU don't work because our WRs are weak and can't block opposing DBs.

 

[shandeezy7]

Bubble screens at SU don't work because our WRs are weak and can't block opposing DBs.

Not true. Sales and Lemon are very good blocking WR's.

 

[SoBeCuse]

Bubble screens at SU don't work because our WRs are weak and can't block opposing DBs.

It's not that. We don't have the shifty burners who can take it to the house. Guys who can juke, make a guy miss, and boom...TD. We have a bunch of good possession receiver-types.

 

[rocklloyd]

With bromley out, we might have a problem

 

[syr02esq]

Not true. Sales and Lemon are very good blocking WR's.

I respectfully disagree.

 

[bnoro]

I respectfully disagree.

Yep. West is our best blocking WR. Lemon is ok, Sales isn't very good.

 

[syr02esq]

Yep. West is our best blocking WR. Lemon is ok, Sales isn't very good.

Agreed!