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Message: [QUOTE="jdubs30, post: 1678532, member: 1620"] People have to remember not to look at this thing in a vacuum. We finish 19-12 and 9-9, period. It doesn't matter that we lost today, our record is our record. jncuse makes an interesting point about since we will be playing Pitt, we avoid the bad loss; also that Pitt would be a quality win it virtually locks us into the field with a W. We are in an enviable position to most teams, as long as there aren't a bunch of crazy bid stealers we still might be OK even with a loss to Pitt [/QUOTE]