Budget and coaching

Cusefan78 · Oct 31, 2015

so for all the fire shafer guys and that's pretty much 90%. Let's say coyle dumps him after the season. He then comes up with 5-7 million coaching budget. Who do we get that's a known commodity. I know we could get a Mac coach with little budget increase but if they go all out on budget is it possible to lure someone with the ipf, money, and a dome renovation. I would think with a smaller budget increase we could get a guy like doc holiday type but if they wanted to go big time (not urban Meyer big) can a coach be bought and let's be honest.

SUFan44 · Oct 31, 2015

Cusefan78 said:
so for all the fire shafer guys and that's pretty much 90%. Let's say coyle dumps him after the season. He then comes up with 5-7 million coaching budget. Who do we get that's a known commodity. I know we could get a Mac coach with little budget increase but if they go all out on budget is it possible to lure someone with the ipf, money, and a dome renovation. I would think with a smaller budget increase we could get a guy like doc holiday type but if they wanted to go big time (not urban Meyer big) can a coach be bought and let's be honest.

Need to do your homework and get the right guy. Gross made a huge mistake with hire #1, got lucky with hire #2 and made the conveniently easy decision with hire #3.

This is Coyle's GRob moment. I trust him more than I did Gross.

Cusefan78 · Oct 31, 2015

SUFan44 said:
Need to do your homework and get the right guy. Gross made a huge mistake with hire #1, got lucky with hire #2 and made the conveniently easy decision with hire #3.

This is Coyle's GRob moment. I trust him more than I did Gross.

Yeah I totally have faith in coyle. I just wonder even with money how alluring is this coaching job for an established coach. I know this is a bs post cause Syracuse won't come up with that money but if they did is it possible to attract a name?

SUFan44 · Oct 31, 2015

Cusefan78 said:
Yeah I totally have faith in coyle. I just wonder even with money how alluring is this coaching job for an established coach. I know this is a bs post cause Syracuse won't come up with that money but if they did is it possible to attract a name?

I think the max you can do is get the Toledo guy. But I think the difference between a MAC head coach and Shafer is Shafer was never a MAC head coach. He just coached in the MAC. Huge difference.

NKR1978 · Oct 31, 2015

SUFan44 said:
Need to do your homework and get the right guy. Gross made a huge mistake with hire #1, got lucky with hire #2 and made the conveniently easy decision with hire #3.

This is Coyle's GRob moment. I trust him more than I did Gross.

With Shafer...Marrone left well after hiring season. Gross's hands were tied. But now we can get someone who isn't a career assistant

bothsocksup · Oct 31, 2015

get Marrone back

Orangejet · Oct 31, 2015

Consider Schiano! Only kidding...

Cusefan78 · Oct 31, 2015

bothsocksup said:
get Marrone back

Please be real. Marrone coming back would turn me into a psu fan

supp · Oct 31, 2015

Cusefan78 said:
so for all the fire shafer guys and that's pretty much 90%. Let's say coyle dumps him after the season. He then comes up with 5-7 million coaching budget. Who do we get that's a known commodity. I know we could get a Mac coach with little budget increase but if they go all out on budget is it possible to lure someone with the ipf, money, and a dome renovation. I would think with a smaller budget increase we could get a guy like doc holiday type but if they wanted to go big time (not urban Meyer big) can a coach be bought and let's be honest.

If past hires are any clue, I would put Harsin at the top of his list. He's a big name by association, i.e. he's the coach of a "perennial" top 10 program.

Shark90210 · Oct 31, 2015

you get what you pay for. we are living proof of that.

OrangeXtreme · Oct 31, 2015

They offered both Holtz and HCRE over $2 mil each back in 2009.

No reason why we can't spend at least $2.5 on a HC.

Is there a HC worth $2.5 who'd be willing to come here with a short leash?

Cusefan78 · Oct 31, 2015

supp said:
If past hires are any clue, I would put Harsin at the top of his list. He's a big name by association, i.e. he's the coach of a "perennial" top 10 program.

I would take harsin. My concern is how long we have been down. Even with money how alluring is this job

Toga · Oct 31, 2015

Bury $5M in the renovation budget for coaches.

Cusefan78 · Oct 31, 2015

OrangeXtreme said:
They offered both Holtz and HCRE over $2 mil each back in 2009.

No reason why we can't spend at least $2.5 on a HC.

Is there a HC worth $2.5 who'd be willing to come here with a short leash?

That's my concern. Those guys turned it down with what would have been big pay increases.

orangeinohio · Oct 31, 2015

OrangeXtreme said:
They offered both Holtz and HCRE over $2 mil each back in 2009.

No reason why we can't spend at least $2.5 on a HC.

Is there a HC worth $2.5 who'd be willing to come here with a short leash?

You think the leash would be short? Expectations are pretty low right now. It would probably be at least a three year leash.

Cusefan78 · Oct 31, 2015

Toga said:
Bury $5M in the renovation budget for coaches.

I don't really think 5 million is enough. Have to pay a coach in the 2.5 range then lure an oc and dc with experience. Pay them in the 750 to 1 million range then you still have the rest of your staff. 5 doesn't get it done

supp · Oct 31, 2015

OrangeXtreme said:
They offered both Holtz and HCRE over $2 mil each back in 2009.

No reason why we can't spend at least $2.5 on a HC.

Is there a HC worth $2.5 who'd be willing to come here with a short leash?

A proven guy doesn't get the same leash. That talk can't and won't be used against the AD in the coaching search. Everyone knew they were taking a chance on continuity with Shafer, including Shafer. It hasn't worked out.

Toga · Oct 31, 2015

Cusefan78 said:
I don't really think 5 million is enough. Have to pay a coach in the 2.5 range then lure an oc and dc with experience. Pay them in the 750 to 1 million range then you still have the rest of your staff. 5 doesn't get it done

OK - $20M

Cusefan78 · Oct 31, 2015

orangeinohio said:
You think the leash would be short? Expectations are pretty low right now. It would probably be at least a three year leash.

There can't be any talk of a leash. The next hire needs to be a homerun. We fail on another coach and say goodnight we are Marshall

Cusefan78 · Oct 31, 2015

Toga said:
OK - $20M

Come on we are just spitfiring but that number is insane

OrangeXtreme · Oct 31, 2015

orangeinohio said:
You think the leash would be short? Expectations are pretty low right now. It would probably be at least a three year leash.

With our fanbase right now ... it's probably 3 games.

Pearl309 · Oct 31, 2015

OrangeXtreme said:
With our fanbase right now ... it's probably 3 games.

3 series

OrangeXtreme · Oct 31, 2015

Cusefan78 said:
There can't be any talk of a leash. The next hire needs to be a homerun. We fail on another coach and say goodnight we are Marshall

Is Matthew Mcconaughey available?

orange79 · Oct 31, 2015

OrangeXtreme said:
Is Matthew Mcconaughey available?

Nah, he's out driving and talking to himself

OrangeXtreme · Oct 31, 2015

orange79 said:
Nah, he's out driving and talking to himself

Well, time is a flat circle.

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