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Message: [QUOTE="NineOneSeven, post: 2752577, member: 871"] Defense can keep you in games for sure, especially in the NFL, but you simply need offense in 2018. Look at Jacksonville. They were elite on d last year. The offense though? It's (usually) so rough. Look at the main teams competing for a title this year- KC, NE, NO, LA, lesser extent Pitt. Such elite offense. There are certainly teams in the mix with decent offenses and mostly solid defenses like Bal, Chi, Minn, but their offense is still >>>> than what we are working with. There are certainly outlier teams like Indy and TB, teams that have scored a bunch of points but don't have the records like the other teams, but the fact remains... offense has got to score touchdowns. The bills are averaging 11 points per game! [/QUOTE]