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Message: [QUOTE="Orangeman, post: 5597830, member: 972"] I wasn't describing the likelihood of the Dolphins winning, per se...just that if the Bills win out and the Dolphins beat the Patriots (or the Jets), then the Bills win the AFC East It's not likely, but record-wise the Fins are the 4th toughest game the Pats have played, behind Bills 9-4 Steelers 7-6 Bucs 7-6 Dolphins 6-7 Ravens 6-7 Patriots won by 6 at the Dolphins early this year. I would probably agree that the Patriots are "better" now, but really anything can happen in the NFL (none of us had Dolphins 30-Bills 13) [/QUOTE]