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Message: [QUOTE="dinosaurbbq, post: 903083, member: 1333"] I think you are vastly underestimating the Big XII. Everyone acts like the SEC dominance is going to continue forever. I actually think the SEC is on the way back down right now to being equal to the other conferences. Alabama proved to be human. Auburn was not a great team, just a very good team that was very lucky. South Carolina underperforms expectations every year. LSU was pretty darn good this year, but wasn't without flaws. Florida is down and will likely stay down with Muschamp, who was a bad hire. Ole Miss under Freeze is recruiting like crazy, but lost more than they should have this year. Texas A&M without Manziel will be interesting to watch but could be on the way down. Mississippi St. isn't going to ever be the pride of the conference. Tennessee is down, Kentucky always sucks. Arkansas is going to be down for a while. Vandy is going to flat out suck again with Franklin gone. Mizzou is a decent team, but far from a world beater. Georgia, while injury riddled this year, has consistently underperformed under Richt. When they start losing to other conferences' teams in bowls, as they did this year, they are coming back to earth. Auburn lost to FSU. Bama lost to Oklahoma. Georgia lost to Nebraska. Lots of SEC teams barely won against teams that weren't great. Ole Miss barely beat Georgia Tech. Texas A&M barely beat Duke. LSU barely beat Iowa. Mizzou didn't exactly dominate Oklahoma State and South Carolina didn't dominate Wisconsin. The two big winners from the SEC in bowls were Mississippi St. who beat a pretty bad Rice team and Vandy who beat a bad Houston team and whose coach has now left with recruiting in the toilet. The Big 12 is actually on the rise in my eyes. Texas with Strong will be a perennial national contender within 2 years and will be a National Champion within 4 years. Oklahoma will be right there with Texas. That young QB Knight looked great and has a few years left in him there and then Stoops will just reload again. Oklahoma State is a very good team. Baylor under Briles is a very good team. Texas Tech under Kingsbury is going to be dangerous. TCU with Patterson is dangerous. As for WVU, I still predict Holgorsen will be fired this year after going under 500 and Rich Rodriguez will be rehired and will again be very successful, just as he is currently at Arizona. Kansas State is an ok team but not great. Kansas and Iowa State aren't good and won't be good. That's 7 Very good teams out of 10 and if Rich Rod comes back to WVU, 8 out of 10. If Texas does become a perennial contender under Strong as I believe, the Big 12 is going to be better than the SEC within a few years. The ACC had a very good year and also appears on the rise, although we aren't ever going to compete with the SEC as a conference. FSU isn't going anywhere with Jimbo being a great coach and recruiter. Clemson needs to prove they can continue to be successful after Tahj Boyd and Sammy Watkins are gone this year and as long as they keep Chad Morris they'll do that. Miami will be back with Golden staying and continuing to recruit well. Brought in 3 schools that all bring decent football teams in Louisville, Cuse and Pitt. SU needs to continue our rise to a perennial 9-10 win team and I think we'll be there starting now. Louisville under Petrino can win 8-9 games/year. Pitt is a middle tier program for life. BC is a middle tier program for life. Georgia Tech will win 7-8 games per year under that boring a$$ ridiculous offense and coach. Duke will sink back down after next year but will be good for now returning so many starters. UNC will continue to recruit and do decent. Wake and NC State suck. I think ACC will be 3rd best after Big 12 and SEC. If Notre Dame jumps on board, and it may have to if the Big 5 break away, this conference is a lot closer to the top. PAC 12 just hasn't performed the way everyone thought they would. They are 4th best after ACC. Stanford is a damn good program but not elite and Oregon is exciting, athletic and talented, but they missed their window to win a championship when Chip Kelly left. Arizona is on the rise with Rich Rodriguez, but again I think he's gone next year back to WVU when Holgorsen gets fired and that program will sink again. UCLA is a decent team but its best days are gone and while Mora is a good coach, he's not going to win the conference or a championship. USC will muddle around under Sarkisian who wasn't exactly killing it at Washington and was a bad hire. Washington, Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State and Utah are also rans. Cal and Colorado suck and will continue to suck. B1G is the worst of the Big 5 conferences I think everyone agrees. Yes Ohio State under Urban is a pretty good team, but they are padding records playing against a lot of slop throughout the conference. Michigan State had its best year in recent memory and is a once in a decade very good team as they are right now and in most years is a small notch above where SU is now. Nebraska falls year by year under Bo Pelini and is about the same as Wisconsin. Wisconsin isn't great and is similarly a small notch above SU right now. Michigan has lost its luster and Brady Hoke won't bring it back. Penn State with Franklin will be interesting, but who knows how good or bad they'll end up being. Northwestern and Minnesota are once every 10 years decent teams and otherwise just above .500. Indiana, Illinois, Purdue and Iowa suck. Maryland and Rutgers are bottom feeders. [/QUOTE]

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