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Message: [QUOTE="senorpalmer, post: 861256, member: 234"] Not negative, just a realist. They're easily inside the top 10 in the last 35-40 years, and I have no complaints about that. I just can't buy saying SU is top 2-3 in that span. My disagreement with your post was in saying that SU was in the top 2-3 programs, but now you've walked that back a bit (nothing wrong with that). Like you said I guess it's a case of how you define blue blood. I don't buy the idea that SU just missed winning 4 titles though. Almost doesn't count for much if anything. A Duke, UNC, Kansas or Kentucky fan might be able to argue that they just missed winning 10 more titles by that logic. [/QUOTE]