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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 5194347, member: 237"] Judah is an enigma. I think it’s fair to say that his production is over valued. He was a high usage guy and put up good numbers vs most everyone because of his FT rate. That said he did very little to be a leader and often times his aggressiveness put us in a hole we couldn’t recover from. It was pure iso ball with him and a couple others. This year is really the first year where we have gone hard into the portal. I think healthy skepticism is fair and have my own. I think a lot of our skepticism derives from poor results as a program and I think it’s fair to separate that from the players a bit. Outside of Taylor, each of the portal adds have been well coached and come from solid programs (in a relative sense and overall sense). So they bring positive traits with them to go with the questions via level of competition and analytics. So if we separate them out that way- as 5th year guys/srs, to me they are guys where the range of outcomes with their production is not wide. Somewhere modestly below their prior to modestly above is where I would say a bunch of seniors will fall. Generally speaking, chemistry, willingness to put in the work and all of that is a positive trait towards getting closer to expectation or better. The Lampkin stuff soured a lot of people and I know that listening to pods like Deans certainly doesn’t excite folks on him either. I look at him as a necessary expenditure for a second year coach trying to revive a program. Getting every ounce out of the kid is on Red to me. Given what he got out of last years team, despite dealing with the BS tells me he’s capable of getting stuff out of difficult kids. Eddie is probably not a super easy kid to deal with , I doubt he’s anything in the category of last year but still the biggest personality. Anyways without going off too many tangents I think that bias leads us to expecting the worst and setting aside that bias I think there is a reasonable window of expectation that primarily will be impacted by how good Donnie is, how much improved the returning guys are, where the new guys fall in that range of outcomes and then the oddball stuff like what ends up being the Westry impact. Finally and maybe even more importantly, how strong is Red with his somewhat new look staff and having a former HC as an assistant? It’s odd that it’s really year 2 in Reds tenure that we know the least about how things will go. For me I see reason to have optimism with a healthy dose of skepticism and am going to give them the benefit of the doubt of leaving the past as the past. That however is just me. The football teams progress ( hopefully with a win tonight too) and my Mets making a run this year probably has me a bit more jovial too lol. [/QUOTE]

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