caught some breaks with calls saturday
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Finwad32
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Worst part is, we got no points out of the drive with the Ishmael catch.
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as long as they are consistent i'm fine with it. they missed and egregious pass interference call against them. Babers went half way out on the field.
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Any designed run VT ran from the shotgun, the VT QB started running before the snap. Is that legal? Seems like a false start to me.
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That Ishmael call on the sideline was crazy. Very close with that back foot, but I 'm surprised it went our way.
The refs were good to us in the first half but they had bad calls against us in the 2nd half. That PI on AET was missed and Pickard didn't look like he was in the neutral zone and that backbreaking offsides call. We got a huge break on the holding call on the VPI 4th down TD and then they missed the FG. They never showed a replay with a real hold. It was an iffy call that I was surprised we got. The Ishmael call he dragged his left foot and ESPN had the shot frozen showing it.
Overall the refs were fine.
Overall the refs were fine.
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In the past it has always seemed that the team that the conference leadership wanted to win would get the calls. Unc got hosed at the end of last years CCG. If that is the case I expect the Orange to get the benefit of the doubt on Saturday. It would be in the ACC's best interest for Addazio to be replaced and a loss Saturday just might do it.
the hold was hard to really see on replay. Franklin got flipped over pretty good so while the end of the block might have been fine how he got turned over who knows. hard to really know if it was a good or bad call since you cant see the angle at all. from my seat behind that goal line it looked funky live and the ref was watching it the whole way
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What is the rule for college football? One player can be in motion when the ball is snapped, but has to be off the line of scrimmage and has to be moving laterally or backwards (i.e. cannot be moving towards the line of scrimmage)?
I too thought VT had two players in motion in the backfield on those weird options plays where the VT QB started running before the snap.
Also, was it legal in the previous game when that hot dog frosh RB for Wake would start running in place just before the snap? Don't the players on offensive have to be set for at least one second before the ball is snapped? That seems to be a requirement for our offense, one we fail to meet 4 or 5 times each game...
I too thought VT had two players in motion in the backfield on those weird options plays where the VT QB started running before the snap.
Also, was it legal in the previous game when that hot dog frosh RB for Wake would start running in place just before the snap? Don't the players on offensive have to be set for at least one second before the ball is snapped? That seems to be a requirement for our offense, one we fail to meet 4 or 5 times each game...
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It was hard to see, but the guard pulled our guy down. That's going to be called a hold all day.
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Correct, but in that same frozen shot, the ball was simply touching both of his hands...he didn't have a grasp, let alone possession of it.
No sense arguing now, I'm glad it went our way & in the end, we didn't score so it's moot.
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I think it was as long as he wasn't moving forward. It reminded me of something you'd see in old school high school football. I have no idea what the purpose is other than to needlessly tire yourself out.
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I saw that too. Wasnt sure on the ruling. Also, the rb may have moved early on that play too.
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I thought it was very likely a catch but that not enough to overturn. Happy with the result obviously.
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Unlike Canadian football, I thought only one person in the backfield could be moving at the snap. And it can only be literally or away from the line of scrimmage. I sit in end zone seats and the quarterback and running back were both starting to move in the direction of the play. It happened two or three times.
i think if 2 guys are moving everyone has to get set before someone can move again.
and the big catch over rule did not end up to much. we didnt score and it didnt lead to a score , we might have kicked a FG had it not been over ruled
and the big catch over rule did not end up to much. we didnt score and it didnt lead to a score , we might have kicked a FG had it not been over ruled
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I'm fairly certain he did not have control down to the ground on that play but I'll always take a break in our favor
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In the NFL you need two feet in to be a catch...I believe he only had 1 foot in so it wouldn't have been a catch.
Good thing we aren't playing by NFL rules.
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Good point. I was thinking specifically about him having and holding onto the ball. If he did have two feet down, I still don't think it would have been a catch in the NFL.
