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Message: [QUOTE="OrangePA, post: 2009137, member: 204"] Boneheaded post. We are talking right now about our struggles to get [I]eligible[/I] to play in a lousy low level bowl game. And some ying yang decides to try be funny by disparaging two coaches who had prominent/primary roles in rescuing the Syracuse Program all the way to the Sugar Bowl in 1987 and the Fiesta, Orange, Gator, Hall of Fame, Liberty and other bowls for a long time after that. Trying to work his way toward the "conventional wisdom" of the supposed "thought leaders" of this board. I would kill to once again have the kind of success that these two great coaches gave us for so many years - including those awful, horrible, unforgiveable so-called "What" losses. [/QUOTE]