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Message: [QUOTE="bpo57, post: 4059954, member: 1572"] Depends which conference they played in. Winning the ACC would have impressed absolutely nobody this year given the weakness of that conference (not one team currently in the top 16). Probably same could be said for PAC-12. Don't think they are good enough to have won the B-12, B1G or SEC this year. This was also supposed to be a rebuilding year for ND as they were a consensus low teens ranked squad pre-season and their Vegas win total was pegged at nine. They played a fairly easy schedule and generally took care of business but with several close calls. Imo they don't belong in the top 4 even if they had beaten Cinci. Finishing in the top five at the end of the regular season though is nothing to sneeze at. [/QUOTE]