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Message: [QUOTE="JazzNC, post: 2649905, member: 6034"] I'm not going to go round and round with you. The 2017 class is nice. I've not bashed them one time in this entire thread. The players were ranked in the 100-200 range on 2 4 7. I don't cherry pick sites that support my claims. ESPN did have them ranked higher. To to summarize...the 2017 class was nice. I The verdict is still out on them. They may very well prove to be a top 20 class. Your thinking is very black and white, however. I can like the 2017 class and still want to do better in 2019. That shouldn't translate to they stink, SU stinks and JB can't recruit. That's what you all try to do to me all the time. That's not what I think. [/QUOTE]