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Message: [QUOTE="SBU72, post: 4520327, member: 741"] I really think that #3 is the biggest cause of decline of SU b-ball. JB started his career with the Louie and Bowie recruitment (a great start) then the Big East/ESPN fueled it to national prominence. Even then towards the end of that conference, SU had to battle to stay in the top 4. The move to the ACC has all but doomed the program, not just the aging coach. What Big East team moving to the ACC has maintained success? Will a new coach really lead to a raise to the upper levels of the conference? And if it does, will SU be able to stay there when the new coach moves on building on his success? Sorry to be a Debbie downer but 5th to 9th place maybe the best that can be done year to year. [/QUOTE]