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Message: [QUOTE="Starman, post: 5467465, member: 10484"] The podcast was painful. Not knowing all of the details (the article gave us some numbers, but other than that was missing like 80% of the details that would actually explain how we got here), Weitsman comes across like any number of manipulative people I've seen in my life. He keeps the possibility of reconciliation open as a way to not only keep his hooks in SU, but for others to get their hooks in SU on his behalf. SU realises that the only thing to do is to not play his game. Again, too many details missing to know if it's true, but that's certainly how it seems to me. [/QUOTE]