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Message: [QUOTE="baggerbob, post: 5468288, member: 164"] You always have great responses. The only thing in my mind after watching SU since the 50's along with Steve who we all miss. When I was a teen in the 50's it seemed that SU really cared about the fans and community. Then along came Shaw and Jake and things changed. Jake was a football coach trying to be an AD, and Shaw didn't care about fans or the community. That's where we are now, and until we get better leadership on the hill it will stay that way. The University needs to have everyone on board in this new frontier of college sports or we will be left behind. [/QUOTE]