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Cowtown said:
Nets' Chris McCullough makes NBA debut, promptly nails 20-footer

After nearly 13 months of rehab, it was time for the 21-year-old rookie to make his long-awaited NBA debut.

McCullough checked into Monday night's 105-104 victory over the Denver Nuggets early in the second quarter and ultimately played 11 minutes, scoring two points, grabbing two rebounds and coming up with a steal and a block.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14743329/chris-mccullough-brooklyn-nets-makes-statement-nba-debut
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I don't like it when players leave. But we hardly knew CM. I wish him success. He really took a tough gamble entering the draft when he did but I don't know his family situation. I hope it all works out great for him.
 
He's in the right place to get lots of playing time and establish himself quickly. The remainder of this season is for knocking off the rust. I look for him to be a key contributor for the Nets next season. When he goes on have a nice NBA career, it will be interesting to see how many of his detractors rush back in to claim him as "one of ours."
 
Dave85 said:
I don't like it when players leave. But we hardly knew CM. I wish him success. He really took a tough gamble entering the draft when he did but I don't know his family situation. I hope it all works out great for him.
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this is essentially how I feel too. I dont think I have any less of a connection towards any former SU player who is playing in the NBA than Cmac. but heres to hopefully success and fortune
 
br801 said:
He's in the right place to get lots of playing time and establish himself quickly. The remainder of this season is for knocking off the rust. I look for him to be a key contributor for the Nets next season. When he goes on have a nice NBA career, it will be interesting to see how many of his detractors rush back in to claim him as "one of ours."
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People that think that he could have become a lottery pick with another year of school don't realize that the Nets also happened to believe that too, they just decided to invest a draft choice at the end of the first round to get a future lottery pick instead of waiting.
 
OttoinGrotto said:
People that think that he could have become a lottery pick with another year of school don't realize that the Nets also happened to believe that too, they just decided to invest a draft choice at the end of the first round to get a future lottery pick instead of waiting.
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I get it the money and everything. Not to fault CMAC. But it would be nice if the NCAA had an agreement with the NBA to not take players for at least 2 years for the sake and quality of CBB. I know I'm severely biased but that's how I feel.
 
br801 said:
He's in the right place to get lots of playing time and establish himself quickly. The remainder of this season is for knocking off the rust. I look for him to be a key contributor for the Nets next season. When he goes on have a nice NBA career, it will be interesting to see how many of his detractors rush back in to claim him as "one of ours."
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I'm not sure he is ready to be a key contributor based on how unimpressive he was in his abbreviated season last year but with hard work and further development of his body, anything is possible.

As far as his detractors rushing back on his bandwagon, it's not his fault that he got injured last year. People never got a chance to get to know him. If he shows love like Donte did, I am sure the love will be reciprocal.
 
One of the big reasons the NBA began looking to Europe & South America for players is because there aren't as many skilled players available from North America anymore. And that's because so many leave college early, lured by the "big bucks." The NBA doesn't care where the talent comes from, the wider the pool, the more chance there is a few will have what it takes to make it. And if they all wash out, so what? Again, they don't care, there's another bunch coming along next year. So the draft, televised as it is, is more sizzle than steak for them.

The ones who pay the price are those who haven't developed the necessary skills, and choose to chase a dream that's never going to be within their reach. I'm sure Donte Greene never expected to have Reno, Puerto Rico, Dongguan (China), and Dubai on his resume. But he's now 27, and the good ship NBA has sailed, and he's not on the passenger list ... :noidea:
 
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OttoinGrotto said:
People that think that he could have become a lottery pick with another year of school don't realize that the Nets also happened to believe that too, they just decided to invest a draft choice at the end of the first round to get a future lottery pick instead of waiting.
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I really like the move for them too considering they basically traded all of their picks to Boston. Got some upside with that pick at least.
 
Knicks411 said:
I really like the move for them too considering they basically traded all of their picks to Boston. Got some upside with that pick at least.
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There's an interesting PR angle as well ...

"The 6-foot-11 forward, who grew up in the projects in the Bronx, became the first New York native to play for the Brooklyn Nets."​
 
Cowtown said:
One of the big reasons the NBA began looking to Europe & South America for players is because there aren't as many skilled players available from North America anymore. And that's because so many leave college early, lured by the "big bucks." The NBA doesn't care where the talent comes from, the wider the pool, the more chance there is a few will have what it takes to make it. The draft is more sizzle than it is steak for them. And if they all wash out, so what? There's another bunch coming along next year. The ones who pay the price are those who haven't developed the necessary skills, and choose to chase a dream that's never going to be within their reach. I'm sure Donte Greene never expected to have Reno, Puerto Rico, Dongguan (China), and Dubai on his resume. But he's now 27, and the good ship NBA has sailed, and he's not on the passenger list ... :noidea:
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Then the NBA should put a 3 year rule in place.
 
OttoinGrotto said:
People that think that he could have become a lottery pick with another year of school don't realize that the Nets also happened to believe that too, they just decided to invest a draft choice at the end of the first round to get a future lottery pick instead of waiting.
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Yes, there's a good chance it will work out well for all concerned. CM got a guaranteed contract from an NBA team that saw him as part of their future (without having to again prove himself at the college level and put his marketability at risk through further injury or subpar performance in an abbreviated season), and the Nets may get a lottery type talent at a bargain rate.
 
Cowtown said:
One of the big reasons the NBA began looking to Europe & South America for players is because there aren't as many skilled players available from North America anymore. And that's because so many leave college early, lured by the "big bucks." The NBA doesn't care where the talent comes from, the wider the pool, the more chance there is a few will have what it takes to make it. And if they all wash out, so what? Again, they don't care, there's another bunch coming along next year. So the draft, televised as it is, is more sizzle than steak for them.

The ones who pay the price are those who haven't developed the necessary skills, and choose to chase a dream that's never going to be within their reach. I'm sure Donte Greene never expected to have Reno, Puerto Rico, Dongguan (China), and Dubai on his resume. But he's now 27, and the good ship NBA has sailed, and he's not on the passenger list ... :noidea:
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The lack of skill in American players is not because of the one and done, its because of AAU ball and coaches not being able to, or being interested in, teaching in a team environment and concentrating on fundamentals, because if they do that stuff, the kid will just go to another team. Parents are just seeing paychecks and immediate returns.
 
Cowtown said:
I'm sure running the D-league is cheaper than the inevitable spate of lawsuits ...
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Why doesn't baseball get sued?
 
rrlbees said:
Why doesn't baseball get sued?
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MLB has a minor league system, and now so does basketball, which present players the opportunity to develop, instead of compelling them to play in college for up to 4 years against their will. Especially those who couldn't meet the academic requirements for college entrance. The D league creates an alternative means of access to the NBA, without which a party may claim he's being discriminated against, which brings in a whole range of socio-economic factors that would be very unpleasant to deal with. Again. Just a guess, however.
 
Cowtown said:
MLB has a minor league system, and now so does basketball, which present players the opportunity to develop, instead of compelling them to play in college for up to 4 years against their will. Especially those who couldn't meet the academic requirements for college entrance. The D league creates an alternative means of access to the NBA, without which a party may claim he's being discriminated against, which brings in a whole range of socio-economic factors that would be very unpleasant to deal with. Again. Just a guess, however.
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Didn't Maurice Clarett lose his lawsuit?
 
Capt. Tuttle said:
The lack of skill in American players is not because of the one and done, its because of AAU ball and coaches not being able to, or being interested in, teaching in a team environment and concentrating on fundamentals, because if they do that stuff, the kid will just go to another team. Parents are just seeing paychecks and immediate returns.
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Not sure I blame AAU or even willing to concede that players are lacking skill. There are good AAU coaches and bad AAU coaches just like there are some great high school coaches and some high school coaches who know nothing but are collecting a pay check. AAU helps young players quite a bit by exposing them to compete against some of the best competition nationally that they otherwise wouldn't be able to. There are some ugly parts to it but that can be said about anything.
 
It's simple, the NBA will never go to 3 years out of high school but they could do what baseball does and give you the chance to enter directly out of high school or if you go to college, make it mandatory to stay for 3 years. That way everyone gets there way.
 
Cowtown said:
One of the big reasons the NBA began looking to Europe & South America for players is because there aren't as many skilled players available from North America anymore. And that's because so many leave college early, lured by the "big bucks." The NBA doesn't care where the talent comes from, the wider the pool, the more chance there is a few will have what it takes to make it. And if they all wash out, so what? Again, they don't care, there's another bunch coming along next year. So the draft, televised as it is, is more sizzle than steak for them.

The ones who pay the price are those who haven't developed the necessary skills, and choose to chase a dream that's never going to be within their reach. I'm sure Donte Greene never expected to have Reno, Puerto Rico, Dongguan (China), and Dubai on his resume. But he's now 27, and the good ship NBA has sailed, and he's not on the passenger list ... :noidea:
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Ehh this isn't really that accurate considering the young US national teams consistently dominate at every high level world event at every age group. More players are being selected from foreign countries because the game is growing in popularity and thus you have better players in that talent pool than in the past. Also, you see teams just draft an overseas kid and stash him for a couple years in a league overseas so they don't have to pay him or have him eat up a roster spot.
 
o'sully33 said:
Ehh this isn't really that accurate considering the young US national teams consistently dominate at every high level world event at every age group. More players are being selected from foreign countries because the game is growing in popularity and thus you have better players in that talent pool than in the past. Also, you see teams just draft an overseas kid and stash him for a couple years in a league overseas so they don't have to pay him or have him eat up a roster spot.
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Notice I said "one of the big reasons," not "the only reason" ... I've always been a believer in the "law of many inputs."

Something similar happened in hockey, as well. North American coaches focused on bigger, faster, stronger and "dump and chase, put noses on the glass," etc, while European players focused on individual skills, stick-handling, passing shooting at targets, etc.
 
Capt. Tuttle said:
The lack of skill in American players is not because of the one and done, its because of AAU ball and coaches not being able to, or being interested in, teaching in a team environment and concentrating on fundamentals, because if they do that stuff, the kid will just go to another team. Parents are just seeing paychecks and immediate returns.
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The NBA is as good as it's ever been. If a college kid comes out when he's not ready, why would they even care? The the player and the team making the risk. If AAU is the reason the NBA is so good right now then bring it on, the game has gotten so much better than the late 90s and early 00s.
 
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