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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 1497831, member: 622"] You are way too generous to VPI/Beamer. SU Hoops has won MANY big time games. VPI has won very few big time games and usually rolls over for big name teams (whether up or down). I hope Beamer holds on for a few more years and deflates the VPI fantasy that never was. Clemson is historically on par with Syracuse. 'Nuff said. Raising them above the historical prominence of Syracuse is a fallacy that leads to too many CFB fans thinking Syracuse is just a flash in the pan when we win. Add to that the fact that Clemson had the easy run of the ACC for 40 years prior to FSU joining and one can see that their record is skewed (not on VPI or recent Rutgers levels). [/QUOTE]