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Message: [QUOTE="rrlbees, post: 3102761, member: 96"] Ticketmaster or whomever, it doesn’t matter. Someone(s) was able to extract 4,000 tix from SU to Ticketmaster/Live Nation to whomever. They are all culpable and legal or not it is still scalping and a horrendous way for fans to be treated. How much of a kickback do each get? And yes, technically it is a sell out because 4,000 tickets were sold to a scalper. But if many of them don’t sell now it’s going to look real JV to call it a sell out. [/QUOTE]