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Message: [QUOTE="kirbivore, post: 2939205, member: 952"] I think the generator might be right. I found the thread and this sounds correct: [B][I]Looking at the tiebreaker rules for the ACC tourney you only quoted (3) a & b. [/I][/B] [I][B]This is how you break the tie with 3 teams. Then if you go down to (3) d it states “If two teams remain tied, procedures (1) and (2) will be followed.” (Part b says until “one” team gets an advantage. ) Therefore if NC State, Lville and us are all tied at 10-8 and UNC beats Duke. Lville win the tie breaker between us 3 tied at 10-8... then you drop down to “d” where it states... “If two teams remain tied, procedures (1) and (2) will be followed.” Then you go back up to (1) where it states... “(1) When two teams are tied in the standings, regular season head-to-head results are used as the tiebreaker.” [/B][/I] [B][I]Therefore since NC State beat us they get the 7 and we get the 8... or at least this is how I read the tiebreakers. [/I][/B] [/QUOTE]