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Message: [QUOTE="DoctorBombay, post: 5026120, member: 626"] As long as the FSU's and Clemson's of the ACC continue to self sabotage the conference, then there's a good chance the Big12 can come out on top. All that was required was a bit of patience by all, and the ACC would have their pick of Big12 scraps. Instead first FSU, now Clemson, and who knows who else to follow, got greedier and more impatient, and the die has now been cast. The ACC has no choice but to play major hardball here. Get as much as they can from the turncoats who're on their way out- it's a matter of survival. [/QUOTE]