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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 5029462, member: 5685"] I think Notre Dame still wanting to be Indy in FB will be good for the long term prospects of the ACC. I think schools like BC, SU, Pitt, Duke, Wake, GA Tech, SMU, Stanford, Cal, and maybe Miami and NC State would prefer staying together vs joining the B12. And ND will certainly be trying to push this to happen. Then you have replacement candidates like UConn, Temple, JMU, USF, FAU, Tulane, Rice, WSU, Oregon State, and MWC teams to fill in any gaps. At that point a nice 16 team conference consisting of 4 Northeastern teams, 4 Southern Atlantic teams, 4 Southern Gulf teams, and 4 Western teams, along with Notre Dame would fit best. BC, UConn, SU, Pitt JMU, Duke, Wake, GA Tech USF, Tulane, SMU, next best fit Stanford, Cal, next best fits That will still be the 4th best FB conference and will be a power conference in BBall. [/QUOTE]