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Message: [QUOTE="DoubleDee, post: 1094063, member: 3193"] Head spinning is right. I agree there needs to be more orange, but if we went all orange, someone will complain about that also. It's unavoidable. People complained during the Grob era, and yes those all orange unis were horrible. But the P era all orange were nicey nice. But as someone has already stated, SU's unis have evolved over the last century plus, and will continue to do so as long as there is a program. Someday, someone will complain when they get rid of the 44 degree angles. [/QUOTE]