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Message: [QUOTE="bpo57, post: 1364987, member: 1572"] Wooden retired 40 years ago so I'm not sure where the facts shake out on that stuff. I think cheating has been widespread and rampant throughout hoops and football for several decades. And with Wooden it's hard to know what to believe and what not to believe. You listen to Bill Walton and he says when he showed up at practice with long hair and a beard Wooden told him to get rid of it or nice knowin' ya. Most coaches would not have been that firm with the best player in the country. The SWC used to stand for So We Cheat? Who'd have thunk an institution like UNC would be involved in the chicanery it has become embroiled in? But if you just go by the record Wooden was the best of all time. [/QUOTE]