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[QUOTE="PeteCalvin, post: 75477, member: 439"]
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I think what he is trying to say is that people in JoePa's generation were brought up to keep out of other people's business. How many people reported family crimes back in the 1930's - 50's? How many neighbor's turned in other neighbors for beating their kids and wives? Not many, I bet. After all, it was the idyllic 1950's when everything was perfect. All families were like the Cleavers. People turned their backs on quite a bit. I think that is what he was getting at. Kid's today are taught to look out for this stuff and report behavior like this. Our society today encourages speaking out. Back then, these subjects were taboo.

I, personally, don't agree with his statements, because my grandmother, who is of that same generation, would not have let that pass. That's not how she was raised. It's all about upbringing. I think K is broad-brushing it a bit too much.

Joe Pa put his empire (which it had become) above the well being of scores of kids, and that is where he failed. He needs to own up to that, no matter how great of a man he's been over the years.

EDIT:  I just read Cherie's post...what she said.
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