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Message: [QUOTE="Irishsecra1, post: 5683110, member: 8453"] I would have to look but I think they have beaten 5 or 6 teams over 500. But, of course, the teams in their league all have the same deficiency in talent so it makes sense the bigger conference teams carve them up. For me, what is important is what they do with the players they have. Can they get them to overachieve or underachieve? Siena is second in their league so seems to me he is doing ok. Gerry gets his guys to play tough, never surrender, put it all on the line ball. Red gets his guys to play creampuff soft, roll over, lets think about the catering food after the game ball. I suspect that Hop is worlds better than Red, not sure how he would compare to Gerry. But again Hop cant be all that bad if he won 2 coaches of the year in Washington. They dont give those things out as door prizes. You have to earn it. [/QUOTE]