Coaches Already Lamenting New Hand-Checking Rule

[shandeezy7]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab...nges-may-result-whistle-181529872--ncaab.html

BTW, lol at this paragraph about Rick Pitino:

"Louisville coach Rick Pitino compared some games last season to "semi-football, semi-rugby," lamenting that dribblers were often impeded by forearms and cutters were bumped and bodied like receivers jammed by cornerbacks at the line of scrimmage."

Umm excuse me??? Pitino is one of the main guys who has proliferated all the hand checking/grabbing/etc. that has made college basketball borderline unwatchable at times. Give me a break with that comment.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

The fact that some coaches seem to be worried about this actually encourages me.

Also, Brad Stevens picked the right time to go to the NBA.

Also, hey, Brad Stevens - you can't win the big one.

 

[sufandu]

Anyone complaining about the "new rules" (it's really a return to the way basketball used to be played at it's best) slowing down the game needs to look in the mirror. It's not the rules slowing down the game, it's your style of play. Tell your players to move their feet and stop shoving, and they won't get fouls called on them. If you can't stay in front of your guy, you get beat. That's called basketball.

 

[Lawrinson14]

Something I have noticed in watching the two SU scrimmages...CJ and Jerami will go to the line way more this year. I mean, there is really no way for most teams to stop them unless they tug and grab.

 

[RF2044]

Anyone complaining about the "new rules" (it's really a return to the way basketball used to be played at it's best) slowing down the game needs to look in the mirror. It's not the rules slowing down the game, it's your style of play. Tell your players to move their feet and stop shoving, and they won't get fouls called on them. If you can't stay in front of your guy, you get beat. That's called basketball.

Agree 100%.

Jay Bilas was all over this last season, and it looks like his prediction about the rules being changed to take this slop away is only going to hurt the teams that used slop to equalize better offensive teams.

 

[sufandu]

Agree 100%.

Jay Bilas was all over this last season, and it looks like his prediction about the rules being changed to take this slop away is only going to hurt the teams that used slop to equalize better offensive teams.

Exactly. And I can't stand reading comments about how the rule changes were made to just increase scoring. No they weren't. They were made to allow for a more free flowing game, which is what basketball is meant to be. Increased scoring will be a by-product of that.

Also, to the people saying the rules changes will make the game unwatchable because of a parade to the free throw line, how watchable is it now? How entertaining is it to see a guy miss a shot because he's shoved or bumped? How entertaining is it to see a guy make a nice cut only to get hip checked and see what would be a good pass sail out of bounds?

 

[Lawrinson14]

The coaches that speak out against it are the ones who know that it will burn their asses.

 

[orange79]

Something I have noticed in watching the two SU scrimmages...CJ and Jerami will go to the line way more this year. I mean, there is really no way for most teams to stop them unless they tug and grab.

JG better shoot FT's like he did in the 1st exhibition and not in the 2nd. Otherwise we're going to have a lot of empty possessions. 2-7? Ugh.

 

[Orangezoo]

One concern I have is how will the refs call games where one team is playing clutch and grab and the other is playing straight up? In past years the team not fouling incessantly has still been penalized for being physical at all even if it was legal.

 

[Madbiker]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab...nges-may-result-whistle-181529872--ncaab.html

BTW, lol at this paragraph about Rick Pitino:

"Louisville coach Rick Pitino compared some games last season to "semi-football, semi-rugby," lamenting that dribblers were often impeded by forearms and cutters were bumped and bodied like receivers jammed by cornerbacks at the line of scrimmage."

Umm excuse me??? Pitino is one of the main guys who has proliferated all the hand checking/grabbing/etc. that has made college basketball borderline unwatchable at times. Give me a break with that comment.

Pitino doesn't like it when other teams do it to HIS quick guards. But his defense relied on handchecking, grabbing, shoving everyone else's guards.

 

[PeteCalvin]

I will cheer the first time Aaron Craft fouls out by halftime.

Pitino's quotes are laughable. He won the BE title last season by using a "Rugby" style against SU.

I feel bad for guys like Jaime Dixon, Buzzsaw Williams, Thug Matta, etc.

Ok, you're right . I don't.

 

[Hoo's That]

The main question in the ACC will be "Will the refs still call hand-checking in spite of the steady stream of -bombs they'll get from The Vicious Little Ferret in Cameron?"

 

[edowd26]

I will cheer the first time Aaron Craft fouls out by halftime.

Pitino's quotes are laughable. He won the BE title last season by using a "Rugby" style against SU.

I feel bad for guys like Jaime Dixon, Buzzsaw Williams, Thug Matta, etc.

Ok, you're right . I don't.

I'll cheer EVERY time he fouls out by half time.

 

[OttoMets]

Like every other point of emphasis announced in the past couple of decades, everything's going to be back to normal by December. Enforcement will be spotty.

 

[Orangemen]

I love that all these coaches are complaining. I didn't notice a single difference in the fouling in our exhibition games. I think we will really benefit from this rule.

 

[Ghost]

I will cheer the first time Aaron Craft fouls out by halftime.

Pitino's quotes are laughable. He won the BE title last season by using a "Rugby" style against SU.

I feel bad for guys like Jaime Dixon, Buzzsaw Williams, Thug Matta, etc.

Ok, you're right . I don't.

Seriously. Craft may not make it through 5 minutes in a single game this year. He pretty much handchecks nonstop all game.

 

[Ghost]

Like every other point of emphasis announced in the past couple of decades, everything's going to be back to normal by December. Enforcement will be spotty.

Yeah, this is what I figure as well. Early in the season we'll see some calls being made, but by the time the bigger games come along things will revert a bit. Everyone will be super excited about the Pitt game and seeing them all foul out, and then shockingly it will play out as it always does w/ us being called for every hand check and moving screen. Meanwhile, Pitt will be called for one out of every five because they just keep doing it up every single trip. I would hate to be an official.

 

[Czar]

Like every other point of emphasis announced in the past couple of decades, everything's going to be back to normal by December. Enforcement will be spotty.

Have you not been reading about the horror story 50+ foul exhibition games?

 

[Knicks411]

Have you not been reading about the horror story 50+ foul exhibition games?

Much easier to call it in games that don't count

 

[kirbivore]

The main question in the ACC will be "Will the refs still call hand-checking in spite of the steady stream of -bombs they'll get from The Vicious Little Ferret in Cameron?"

I always saw Duke's main defensive weapon as the flop, not the clutch and grab style.

 

[Eagles20]

Anyone complaining about the "new rules" (it's really a return to the way basketball used to be played at it's best) slowing down the game needs to look in the mirror. It's not the rules slowing down the game, it's your style of play. Tell your players to move their feet and stop shoving, and they won't get fouls called on them. If you can't stay in front of your guy, you get beat. That's called basketball.

I agree with your point, but players are more physical now than ever and not allowing the slightest hand checking esp on dribble drives gives offensive players all the power. Now with that said I don't think defensive players should ever be allowed to steer players with their hands( like Louisville does), but using a single hand to give some defensive stability shouldn't really affect a good offensive player.

I personally favor alittle bit more of a physical game inside the 3 point arc as long as the defensive player is not controlling an offensive player using two hands. Where I like this new rule is in the back court and just over half court where offensive ball handlers get beat up bringing up the ball. I was always told there to turn the offensive player by beating them to a spot and forcing them to change direction which would leave to a trap if pressing or just slow down their momentum... Using hands to steer there is really unfair

 

[Hoo's That]

I always saw Duke's main defensive weapon as the flop, not the clutch and grab style.

They manage to work both tactics in together. They have their hands out trying to keep you away from them and when you push against it moving a bit closer, they suddenly throw both arms up and flop for the charge.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Anyone complaining about the "new rules" (it's really a return to the way basketball used to be played at it's best) slowing down the game needs to look in the mirror. It's not the rules slowing down the game, it's your style of play. Tell your players to move their feet and stop shoving, and they won't get fouls called on them. If you can't stay in front of your guy, you get beat. That's called basketball.

The greatest take on anything sports I have ever read, ever.

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[OttoMets]

Have you not been reading about the horror story 50+ foul exhibition games?

Yeah, happens every couple of years (palming, flopping, etc.). Coaches complain, officials can't keep up, and the fad fades away.

I love that there's real enforcement happening in some of the exhibitions, don't get me wrong. It'd be fantastic if the rules were applied like this 100% of the time.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Have you not been reading about the horror story 50+ foul exhibition games?

Stop complaining and just play defense.

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