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Message: [QUOTE="ImperialOrange, post: 134881, member: 362"] Gave me a ton to reply to here. Intent of my post was simply defending last years 8 win season as an 8 win season and get rid of the * that people like to put on it. Temple did it with good coaching and a MAC schedule. Pretty sure Syracuse could compete in the MAC but thankfully the ACC grabbed us so we won't have to find out. Marrones coaching tenure has been a roller coaster ride. When I was walking out of the West Virginia game I thought maybe we had made a jump and a year or 2 before schedule. It's one thing to beat a top 25 team, but it's been awhile since we beat a top 25 like that. The 5 losses to end of the season sucked badly but it doesnt completely overshadow everything else that has transpired. It doesn't mean Marrone cannot coach, Nassib cannot play QB, Macky cannot play center @ a D1 level, etc, etc. Just trying to maintain focus on where we've been, vs where we are, vs hopefully where we're going. [/QUOTE]