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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 135248, member: 628"] This post made me utterly depressed for the future. So thanks for that, Chip! ;) Seriously, what it tells me is that (a) Marrone is a much better coach than GRob, (b) the "program" was not in as bad of shape as the head coaching position was -- meaning that we had some modest amount of talent but a dunderhead implementing it, (c) the talent doesn't seem to be getting a ton better overall, although I'll cop to not knowing how the guy's who haven't played much have progressd, so I may be off on this one, thus (d) we're looking at the 7 win ceiling that IB keeps talking about. I still think that Marrone could be a good coach, but the next few months may determine that. [/QUOTE]