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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 1898696, member: 4809"] there really is no defense or special teams. part of it is coaching and the majority is the lack of talent. many of us said pre-season that the biggest concern was the d and the oline---it is now obvious. this season is a gimme for babers, next season is not if he stays this course. he needs to demonstrate the ability to coach a whole team and not just the offense. i have said before that u can get away with a offense that has gimmicks for awhile, but not on defense. even the offense showed dungey running for his life several times. nd is NOT THAT GOOD,we are a mid- mid-major at this point. i do believe that babers can adapt to this level, but he needs to take a hard look at the whole picture and not just the offense. [/QUOTE]