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Message: [QUOTE="Pyle, post: 1085240, member: 137"] People like to point out our history with VPI and Miami. With 1 or 2 exceptions our only history with Miami was historic beatdowns. We had a good thing going with VT but I think alot of it had to do with Vick and Beamer. The Vicks are gone and Beamer's pushing 70 and won't be around too much longer. My point is once Beamer leaves, VT is just VPI again, I'm not sure we could establish the level of vitriol we had with them before especially if he leaves. IDK about Miami, they are a shell of their former selves. FSU and Clemson have more to offer in terms of tradition and atmosphere. I mean would you rather have the chance to play in Death Valley every other year or Sun Life stadium which has seen a 30% attendance decrease in the last 10 years. Not to mention VT fans are D**KS. I think we have a chance to build something with FSU and Clemson if we sneak up and punch them in the mouth a few times. [/QUOTE]