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Message: [QUOTE="longislandcuse, post: 3082924, member: 937"] Agreed. Solid programs don’t move the needle. The biggest issue, and one that the ACC needs solved to make the jump to “Best Conference in the Land” conversations, is the Atlantic sorting itself out and/or Syracuse making the jump from Top 25 to Top 10 / FSU becoming a power again. I don’t think NC State has that in them. Coaching is huge when you’re not a Top 10 recruiting powerhouse, and for that reason, if we can hold onto Dino long term...we do (IMO) have that chance. I think NC State has a ceiling of a solid Top 25 under their current leadership. PAC 12 has no contenders. No one cares. SEC has Bama, UGA, UF, A&M and LSU. B1G has OSU and Michigan. Big XII has had the ACC problem but now Texas maybe emerged to join OU. Who will join Clemson?... [/QUOTE]