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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 312540, member: 628"] I guess the thing with Barons is that they seem to be the programs that have a successful history (if not a successful present) along with huge fanbases that sustain them through the lean years. Compare them to the Knights and I think it's the fanbase that's the difference. The only Knights that have fanbases equivalent to the Barons are South Carolina, Michigan State, and BYU. But none of those three have the history of past success that the Barons have (aside from a few signature seasons). UCLA is still in LA, and they still draw 55-65K a game despite being pretty mediocre. Personally I'd put them at Knight status, but you can make a case for Baron I suppose, based on the fanbase. [/QUOTE]