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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 2358466, member: 2585"] This comes up every year. ND can't go 12-1. The consensus seems to be an undefeated ND is in over a one loss team from a P5 conference title game winner. I don't know if that's true. For example, this year. What if Clemson and ND both win out? Clemson will be 12-1 and ND will be 11-1. Clemson plays an extra game in the ACC conference title game. So what if ND beats Miami and NC State. So will have Clemson. I think you have to give it to the conference title game champ over ND. Let's call it the "snobby independent tax" ;) EDIT: I missed that ND has a loss. Updated my post. I don't think a 1-loss ND team gets in over any P5 conference champ that has 1 loss and wins their conference title game. You could make the case that of Georgia wins out and loses to Bama in the title game - that they should get in over ND (some other teams need to lose). They won the head to head and played an extra game. [/QUOTE]