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Message: [QUOTE="Madbiker, post: 3711508, member: 312"] Mostly true. Move to ACC definitely has hurt recruiting. The best SU can ever be in the ACC is to finish 3 or 4. All the talk in the ACC is about Duke, UNC, UVA. Doesn't excite kids. NE kids want to play in the Big East tourney at MSG not in Greensboro. Our NE recruiting has sunk. Some due to losing Hop but a lot not. Two best players we have are from Canada and Slovakia. Having a 76 year old coach who plays only zone, which many kids don't want to play exclusively, also is hurting us. All have combined to pretty much destroy SU as a nationally relevant program. Where are we again this season -- 9th in ACC. Our new annual spot. I get the U gets a big check for being the conference's football doormat. And the almighty $ always wins. But that doesn't make it easier to take. [/QUOTE]