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I've decided to update this post I made a year ago concerning SU's combined records in football and basketball. I think one of the reasons we are so down now is that basketball for years has been our "stopper" that gives us a reliable taste of success after some difficult football seasons and this year the basketball season has just featured a continuation of our frustrations in football. Here is some historical perspective.
SU football and basketball are the two sports that put this burg on the national map. Lacrosse doesn’t do that. The Crunch and the Chiefs don’t do that. I tend to look at the combined SU football and basketball seasons as one long season from September, (or August) to March, (or April), during which our teams try to make the sports world realize that “the Cuse is in the House”. Our combined record at this point this year is 12 wins and 14 losses, (4-8 + 8-6). Our only losing records in recent years have been 2007-08 when G-Rob went 2-10 and a similarly banged-up basketball team went 21-14, losing in the NIT and 2014-15 when Scott Shafer went 4-8 in his final year and we banned ourselves from post season play and finished the regular season at 18-13. Before that you have to go back to our last losing season, in basketball, 1968-69. Out best year ever was 1988-89 when our two teams were 40-10, +30. The worst was 1961-62, when they were 10-25, -15. That’s also the worst winning percentage, (or the best losing percentage?) 28.6%. The best winning percentage was 1925-26, 27-2, (93.1%). Thank you, Vic Hanson.
I realize that this is skewed toward basketball as there are more games and that basketball wasn’t really a big time sport until the 60’s or the 70’s, but here is the total record since the basketball program began in 1900-01. I’ll ignore football ties. The negative years are in bold.
1900-01 football 7-2, basketball 2-2, total 9-4 net result = +5
1901-02 7-1 + 3-3 = 10-4 +6
1902-03 6-2 + 1-8 = 7-10 -3
1903-04 5-4 + 11-8 = 16-12 +4
1904-05 6-3 + 14-7 = 20-10 +10
1905-06 8-3 + 9-3 = 17-6 +11
1906-07 6-3 + 4-3 = 10-6 +4
1907-08 5-3 + 10-3 = 15-6 +9
1908-09 6-3 + 7-8 = 13-11 +2
1909-10 4-5 + 3-11 = 7-16 -9
1910-11 5-4 + 6-11 = 11-15 = -4
1911-12 5-3 + 11-3 = 16-6 = +10
1912-13 4-5 + 8-3 = 12-8 +4
1913-14 6-4 + 12-0 = 18-4 +14
1914-15 5-3 + 10-1 = 15-4 +11
1915-16 9-12 + 9-3 = 18-4 +14
1916-17 5-4 + 13-3 = 17-7 +10
1917-18 8-1 + 16-1 = 24-2 +22
1918-19 5-1 + 13-3 = 18-4 +14
1919-20 8-3 + 15-3 = 23-6 +17
1920-21 6-2 + 12-9 = 18-11 +7
1921-22 7-2 + 16-8 = 23-10 +13
1922-23 6-1 + 8-12 = 14-13 +1
1923-24 8-1 + 8-10 = 16-11 +5
1924-25 8-2 + 15-2 = 23-4 +19
1925-26 8-1 + 19-1 = 27-2 +25
1926-27 7-2 + 15-4 = 22-6 +16
1927-28 5-3 + 10-6 = 15-9 +6
1928-29 4-4 + 11-4 = 15-8 +7
1929-30 6-3 + 18-2 = 24-5 +19
1930-31 5-2 + 16-4 = 21-6 +15
1931-32 7-1 + 13-8 = 20-9 +11
1932-33 4-4 + 14-2 = 18-6 +12
1933-34 4-4 + 15-2 = 19-6 +13
1934-35 6-2 + 15-2 = 21-4 +17
1935-36 6-1 + 12-5 = 18-6 +12
1936-37 1-7 + 13-4 = 14-11 +3
1937-38 5-2 + 14-5 = 19-7 +12
1938-39 5-3 + 15-4 = 20-7 +13
1939-40 3-3 + 10-8 = 13-11 +2
1940-41 3-4 + 14-5 = 17-9 +8
1941-42 5-2 + 15-6 = 20-8 +12
1942-43 6-3 + 8-10 = 14-13 +1
1943-44 (no teams)
1944-45 2-4 + 7-12 = 9-16 -7
1945-46 1-6 + 23-4 = 24-10 +14
1946-47 4-5 + 19-6 = 23-11 +12
1947-48 3-6 + 11-13 = 14-19 -5
1948-49 1-8 + 18-7 = 19-15 +4
1949-50 4-5 + 18-9 = 22-14 +8
1950-51 5-5 + 19-9 = 24-14 +10
1951-52 5-4 + 14-6 = 19-10 +9
1952-53 7-3 + 7-11 = 14-14 0
1953-54 5-3 + 10-9 = 15-12 +3
1954-55 4-4 + 10-11 = 14-15 -1
1955-56 5-3 + 14-8 = 19-11 +8
1956-57 7-2 + 18-7 = 25-9 +16
1957-58 5-3 + 11-10 = 16-13 +3
1958-59 8-2 + 14-9 = 22-11 +11
1959-60 11-0 + 13-8 = 24-8 +16
1960-61 7-2 + 4-19 = 11-21 -10
1961-62 8-3 + 2-22 = 10-25 -15
1962-63 5-5 + 8-13 = 15-18 -3
1963-64 8-2 + 17-8 = 25-10 +15
1964-65 7-4 + 13-10 20-14 +6
1965-66 7-3 + 22-6 = 29-9 +20
1966-67 8-3 + 20-6 = 28-9 +11
1967-68 8-2 + 11-14 = 19-16 +3
1968-69 6-4 + 9-16 = 15-20 -5
1969-70 5-5 + 12-12 = 17-17 0 (the one year both teams were exactly at .500)
1970-71 6-4 + 19-7 = 25-11 +14
1971-72 5-5- + 22-6 = 27-11 +16
1972-73 5-6 + 24-5 = 29-11 +18
1973-74 2-9 + 19-7 = 21-16 +5
1974-75 2-9 + 23-9 = 25-18 +7
1975-76 6-5 + 20-8 = 26-13 +13
1976-77 3-8 + 26-4 = 29-12 +17
1977-78 6-5 + 22-6 = 28-11 +17
1978-79 3-8 + 26-4 = 29-12 +17
1979-80 7-5 +26-4 = 33-9 +24
1980-81 5-6 + 22-12 = 27-18 +9
1981-82 4-6 + 16-13 = 20-19 +1
1982-83 2-9 + 21-10 = 23-19 +4
1983-84 6-5 + 23-9 = 29-14 +15
1984-85 6-5 + 22-9 = 28-14 +14
1985-86 7-5 + 26-6 = 33-11 +22
1986-87 5-6 + 31-7 = 36-13 +23
1987-88 11-0 + 26-9 = 37-9 +28
1988-89 10-2 + 30-8 = 40-10 +30
1989-90 8-4 + 26-7 = 33-11 +22
1990-91 7-4 + 26-6 = 33-16 +17
1991-92 10-2 + 22-10 = 32-12 +20
1992-93 10-2 + 20-9 = 30-11 +19
1993-94 6-4 + 23-7 = 29-11 +18
1994-95 7-4 + 20-10 = 27-14 +13
1995-96 9-3 + 29-9 = 38-12 = +26
1996-97 9-3 + 19-13 = 28-16 +12
1997-98 9-4 + 26-9 = 35-13 +22
1998-99 8-4 + 21-12 = 29-16 +3
1999-00 7-5 + 26-6 = 33-11 +22
2000-01 6-5 + 25-9 = 31-14 +17
2001-02 10-3 + 23-13 = 33-16 +17
2002-03 4-8 + 30-5 = 34-13 +21
2003-04 6-6 + 23-8 = 29-14 +15
2004-05 6-6 + 27-7 = 33-13 +20
2005-06 1-10 + 23-12 = 24-22 +2
2006-07 4-8 + 24-11 = 28-19 +9
2007-08 2-10 + 21-14 = 23-24 -1
2008-09 3-9 + 28-10 = 31-19 +12
2009-10 4-8 + 30-5 = 34-13 +21
2010-11 8-5 + 27-8 = 35-13 +22
2011-12 5-7 + 34-3 = 39-10 +29
2012-13 8-5 + 30-10 = 38-15 +23
2013-14 7-6 + 28-6 = 35-12 +23
2014-15 3-9 + 18-13 = 21-22 -1
2015-16 4-8 + 23-14 = 27-22 +5
2016-17 4-8 + 8-6 = 12-14 (so far)
To be a Syracuse fan is to go home happy- most of the time. We're going through a rough patch right now but I suspect we will get back on the winnging track before long.
SU football and basketball are the two sports that put this burg on the national map. Lacrosse doesn’t do that. The Crunch and the Chiefs don’t do that. I tend to look at the combined SU football and basketball seasons as one long season from September, (or August) to March, (or April), during which our teams try to make the sports world realize that “the Cuse is in the House”. Our combined record at this point this year is 12 wins and 14 losses, (4-8 + 8-6). Our only losing records in recent years have been 2007-08 when G-Rob went 2-10 and a similarly banged-up basketball team went 21-14, losing in the NIT and 2014-15 when Scott Shafer went 4-8 in his final year and we banned ourselves from post season play and finished the regular season at 18-13. Before that you have to go back to our last losing season, in basketball, 1968-69. Out best year ever was 1988-89 when our two teams were 40-10, +30. The worst was 1961-62, when they were 10-25, -15. That’s also the worst winning percentage, (or the best losing percentage?) 28.6%. The best winning percentage was 1925-26, 27-2, (93.1%). Thank you, Vic Hanson.
I realize that this is skewed toward basketball as there are more games and that basketball wasn’t really a big time sport until the 60’s or the 70’s, but here is the total record since the basketball program began in 1900-01. I’ll ignore football ties. The negative years are in bold.
1900-01 football 7-2, basketball 2-2, total 9-4 net result = +5
1901-02 7-1 + 3-3 = 10-4 +6
1902-03 6-2 + 1-8 = 7-10 -3
1903-04 5-4 + 11-8 = 16-12 +4
1904-05 6-3 + 14-7 = 20-10 +10
1905-06 8-3 + 9-3 = 17-6 +11
1906-07 6-3 + 4-3 = 10-6 +4
1907-08 5-3 + 10-3 = 15-6 +9
1908-09 6-3 + 7-8 = 13-11 +2
1909-10 4-5 + 3-11 = 7-16 -9
1910-11 5-4 + 6-11 = 11-15 = -4
1911-12 5-3 + 11-3 = 16-6 = +10
1912-13 4-5 + 8-3 = 12-8 +4
1913-14 6-4 + 12-0 = 18-4 +14
1914-15 5-3 + 10-1 = 15-4 +11
1915-16 9-12 + 9-3 = 18-4 +14
1916-17 5-4 + 13-3 = 17-7 +10
1917-18 8-1 + 16-1 = 24-2 +22
1918-19 5-1 + 13-3 = 18-4 +14
1919-20 8-3 + 15-3 = 23-6 +17
1920-21 6-2 + 12-9 = 18-11 +7
1921-22 7-2 + 16-8 = 23-10 +13
1922-23 6-1 + 8-12 = 14-13 +1
1923-24 8-1 + 8-10 = 16-11 +5
1924-25 8-2 + 15-2 = 23-4 +19
1925-26 8-1 + 19-1 = 27-2 +25
1926-27 7-2 + 15-4 = 22-6 +16
1927-28 5-3 + 10-6 = 15-9 +6
1928-29 4-4 + 11-4 = 15-8 +7
1929-30 6-3 + 18-2 = 24-5 +19
1930-31 5-2 + 16-4 = 21-6 +15
1931-32 7-1 + 13-8 = 20-9 +11
1932-33 4-4 + 14-2 = 18-6 +12
1933-34 4-4 + 15-2 = 19-6 +13
1934-35 6-2 + 15-2 = 21-4 +17
1935-36 6-1 + 12-5 = 18-6 +12
1936-37 1-7 + 13-4 = 14-11 +3
1937-38 5-2 + 14-5 = 19-7 +12
1938-39 5-3 + 15-4 = 20-7 +13
1939-40 3-3 + 10-8 = 13-11 +2
1940-41 3-4 + 14-5 = 17-9 +8
1941-42 5-2 + 15-6 = 20-8 +12
1942-43 6-3 + 8-10 = 14-13 +1
1943-44 (no teams)
1944-45 2-4 + 7-12 = 9-16 -7
1945-46 1-6 + 23-4 = 24-10 +14
1946-47 4-5 + 19-6 = 23-11 +12
1947-48 3-6 + 11-13 = 14-19 -5
1948-49 1-8 + 18-7 = 19-15 +4
1949-50 4-5 + 18-9 = 22-14 +8
1950-51 5-5 + 19-9 = 24-14 +10
1951-52 5-4 + 14-6 = 19-10 +9
1952-53 7-3 + 7-11 = 14-14 0
1953-54 5-3 + 10-9 = 15-12 +3
1954-55 4-4 + 10-11 = 14-15 -1
1955-56 5-3 + 14-8 = 19-11 +8
1956-57 7-2 + 18-7 = 25-9 +16
1957-58 5-3 + 11-10 = 16-13 +3
1958-59 8-2 + 14-9 = 22-11 +11
1959-60 11-0 + 13-8 = 24-8 +16
1960-61 7-2 + 4-19 = 11-21 -10
1961-62 8-3 + 2-22 = 10-25 -15
1962-63 5-5 + 8-13 = 15-18 -3
1963-64 8-2 + 17-8 = 25-10 +15
1964-65 7-4 + 13-10 20-14 +6
1965-66 7-3 + 22-6 = 29-9 +20
1966-67 8-3 + 20-6 = 28-9 +11
1967-68 8-2 + 11-14 = 19-16 +3
1968-69 6-4 + 9-16 = 15-20 -5
1969-70 5-5 + 12-12 = 17-17 0 (the one year both teams were exactly at .500)
1970-71 6-4 + 19-7 = 25-11 +14
1971-72 5-5- + 22-6 = 27-11 +16
1972-73 5-6 + 24-5 = 29-11 +18
1973-74 2-9 + 19-7 = 21-16 +5
1974-75 2-9 + 23-9 = 25-18 +7
1975-76 6-5 + 20-8 = 26-13 +13
1976-77 3-8 + 26-4 = 29-12 +17
1977-78 6-5 + 22-6 = 28-11 +17
1978-79 3-8 + 26-4 = 29-12 +17
1979-80 7-5 +26-4 = 33-9 +24
1980-81 5-6 + 22-12 = 27-18 +9
1981-82 4-6 + 16-13 = 20-19 +1
1982-83 2-9 + 21-10 = 23-19 +4
1983-84 6-5 + 23-9 = 29-14 +15
1984-85 6-5 + 22-9 = 28-14 +14
1985-86 7-5 + 26-6 = 33-11 +22
1986-87 5-6 + 31-7 = 36-13 +23
1987-88 11-0 + 26-9 = 37-9 +28
1988-89 10-2 + 30-8 = 40-10 +30
1989-90 8-4 + 26-7 = 33-11 +22
1990-91 7-4 + 26-6 = 33-16 +17
1991-92 10-2 + 22-10 = 32-12 +20
1992-93 10-2 + 20-9 = 30-11 +19
1993-94 6-4 + 23-7 = 29-11 +18
1994-95 7-4 + 20-10 = 27-14 +13
1995-96 9-3 + 29-9 = 38-12 = +26
1996-97 9-3 + 19-13 = 28-16 +12
1997-98 9-4 + 26-9 = 35-13 +22
1998-99 8-4 + 21-12 = 29-16 +3
1999-00 7-5 + 26-6 = 33-11 +22
2000-01 6-5 + 25-9 = 31-14 +17
2001-02 10-3 + 23-13 = 33-16 +17
2002-03 4-8 + 30-5 = 34-13 +21
2003-04 6-6 + 23-8 = 29-14 +15
2004-05 6-6 + 27-7 = 33-13 +20
2005-06 1-10 + 23-12 = 24-22 +2
2006-07 4-8 + 24-11 = 28-19 +9
2007-08 2-10 + 21-14 = 23-24 -1
2008-09 3-9 + 28-10 = 31-19 +12
2009-10 4-8 + 30-5 = 34-13 +21
2010-11 8-5 + 27-8 = 35-13 +22
2011-12 5-7 + 34-3 = 39-10 +29
2012-13 8-5 + 30-10 = 38-15 +23
2013-14 7-6 + 28-6 = 35-12 +23
2014-15 3-9 + 18-13 = 21-22 -1
2015-16 4-8 + 23-14 = 27-22 +5
2016-17 4-8 + 8-6 = 12-14 (so far)
To be a Syracuse fan is to go home happy- most of the time. We're going through a rough patch right now but I suspect we will get back on the winnging track before long.