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Message: [QUOTE="wfschrec, post: 823244, member: 361"] Have you even watched UVA this year? And again stop bringing up ND they don't even deserve to be in the top 25 ... you do also realize E Washington lost to Toledo by two scores right? Please just stop its giving me a headache how bad this whole argument is ... I mean hell you've already intimated that this whole desire to tout the PAC-12 is driven by the fact that you hate listening to SEC homers ... but lets not try to build the PAC-12 as the top conference in football because you don't like SEC fans ... hell I don't like a lot of them either but I'm not going to let that cloud my judgement. [/QUOTE]