Comparison -Statistics

[Cheriehoop]

2012-2013 2013-2014 2014-2015

• PPG 70.4 68.4 69.7
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• OPPG 58.7 59.3 59.0
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• POINT DIFF 11.7 9.1 10.7
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• FG% 0.439 0.430 0.442
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• FG% DEF 0.369 0.410 0.376
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• 3 PT % 0.334 0.337 0.326
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• 3 PT % DEF 0.284 0.342 0.278
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• FT% 0.675 0.706 0.662
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• RPG 38.4 35.4 38.8
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• OFF RPG 34.8 31.4 34.4
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• ASS PG 14.1 12.1 16.3
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• TO PG 12.4 9.0 12.4
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• B PG 6.2 5.0 5.5
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• STEALS PG 9.1 8.0 8.9

Sorry that this is so hard to read. It compares stats for '12-13, '13-'14 and to date this year. I was surprised how comparable, if not even better than last years' stats we stand to date. We are actually shooting a better FG% to date than last years' average. Our defense is even better statistically better this year, especially 3 point defense. We are recording more assists per game despite the youth/inexperience in the pure PG role of our main ballhandlers. Just thought it was interesting. Sometimes perceptions just aren't reality.

I know we haven't played the meat of the ACC schedule but some of these stats surprised me and realize that these numbers are certainly subject to change after playing the Louisvilles, UNC's, Dukes etc.

 

[urban96]

Those numbers are pretty surprising. Shows how important the turnovers are!

 

[Cheriehoop]

Those numbers are pretty surprising. Shows how important the turnovers are!

Maybe blocks are more important than we realize and perhaps fuel JB's stress on long armed athletes too???

 

[NineOneSeven]

I think it further solidified what many already know, that being last year was a fluke starting how we did

 

[OttoMets]

As you said, it'll be interesting to reevaluate after we play the full schedule, but this is a pretty solid group.

25-0 was fun for those of us who are fans, but that wasn't a good Syracuse team in comparison to most we've had this century. Not great defensively and historically bad on offense. When those two things are the case, assist-to-turnover doesn't matter as much.

Our ball distribution has been better this season -- improving weekly, I believe -- and it's nice to see that show as assist numbers.

 

[Jack Hall]

Its ironic, this is not one of our more experienced or talented teams but I love that this team can play inside out this yr. not only is Rak kicking it out but the guards are capable of penetrating and kicking out too. Last yrs team just didnt play inside out. Imo if the '12 team could have played more inside out (OSU game) we could have made the FF. But all that team did was drive it to the rim against OSU with no pass and it wasnt good enough as OSU was ready and contested those close shots well. We had some wide open threes, Dion and KJ just werent kicking it out

 

[Cusefan0307]

Really if you look at our games this year we could easily be 15-1 with just a few more plays here or there. Nova and Michigan, and the fiasco down the stretch against the Johnnies. The Cal game was the only game we didn't have a chance. Just as there were close games we should of lost last year, there are close games we could or should of won this year.

 

[Jack Hall]

Really if you look at our games this year we could easily be 15-1 with just a few more plays here or there. Nova and Michigan, and the fiasco down the stretch against the Johnnies. The Cal game was the only game we didn't have a chance. Just as there were close games we should of lost last year, there are close games we could or should of won this year.

Could be a reverso season, we shall see. The McC injury will make things more challenging obviously

 

[Jack Hall]

Really if you look at our games this year we could easily be 15-1 with just a few more plays here or there. Nova and Michigan, and the fiasco down the stretch against the Johnnies. The Cal game was the only game we didn't have a chance. Just as there were close games we should of lost last year, there are close games we could or should of won this year.

Its all about improving, last yrs team didnt come January but this team has been. As much as i think Cal is a slimeball imo he said it very well last night, he basically said: i dont mind a loss now, it all about getting better for the end of the season

 

[Knicks411]

I've made this point before, but while we were lucky to start 25-0, Pomeroy had us a legit top team. After we beat State to get to 25-0, we were #2 in Pomeroy. We're 45th right now.

Another thing to keep in mind for the stats, we have an extra 4 possessions per game this year as compared to last year, so more chances to add to counting stats. The defense ratings are roughly similar; before last night we were 11th in defensive efficiency, and were 13th last year. (We are now 27th). But offensively, we were 37th last year, which was the worst we had done since 2008. We're now 99th now, we were I think 127th before the game last night.

 

[Jack Hall]

I've made this point before, but while we were lucky to start 25-0, Pomeroy had us a legit top team. After we beat State to get to 25-0, we were #2 in Pomeroy. We're 45th right now.

Another thing to keep in mind for the stats, we have an extra 4 possessions per game this year as compared to last year, so more chances to add to counting stats. The defense ratings are roughly similar; before last night we were 11th in defensive efficiency, and were 13th last year. (We are now 27th). But offensively, we were 37th last year, which was the worst we had done since 2008. We're now 99th now, we were I think 127th before the game last night.

We werent 2 when we lost to Dayton, its all about improving. This team has a ways to go but its showing some very positive signs, minus the McC injury

 

[Forza Azzurri]

2012-2013 2013-2014 2014-2015

• PPG 70.4 68.4 69.7
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• OPPG 58.7 59.3 59.0
• 
  
• POINT DIFF 11.7 9.1 10.7
• 
  
• FG% 0.439 0.430 0.442
• 
  
• FG% DEF 0.369 0.410 0.376
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• 3 PT % 0.334 0.337 0.326
• 
  
• 3 PT % DEF 0.284 0.342 0.278
• 
  
• FT% 0.675 0.706 0.662
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• RPG 38.4 35.4 38.8
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• OFF RPG 34.8 31.4 34.4
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• ASS PG 14.1 12.1 16.3
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• TO PG 12.4 9.0 12.4
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• B PG 6.2 5.0 5.5
• 
  
• STEALS PG 9.1 8.0 8.9

Sorry that this is so hard to read. It compares stats for '12-13, '13-'14 and to date this year. I was surprised how comparable, if not even better than last years' stats we stand to date. We are actually shooting a better FG% to date than last years' average. Our defense is even better statistically better this year, especially 3 point defense. We are recording more assists per game despite the youth/inexperience in the pure PG role of our main ballhandlers. Just thought it was interesting. Sometimes perceptions just aren't reality.

I know we haven't played the meat of the ACC schedule but some of these stats surprised me and realize that these numbers are certainly subject to change after playing the Louisvilles, UNC's, Dukes etc.

I think it shows how the difference between a final four team and an NIT team; a 25-0 team and a 12-4 can boil down to execution down the stretch.

Can you get good shots AND hit them and can you get stops when you need them.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I've made this point before, but while we were lucky to start 25-0, Pomeroy had us a legit top team. After we beat State to get to 25-0, we were #2 in Pomeroy. We're 45th right now.

Another thing to keep in mind for the stats, we have an extra 4 possessions per game this year as compared to last year, so more chances to add to counting stats. The defense ratings are roughly similar; before last night we were 11th in defensive efficiency, and were 13th last year. (We are now 27th). But offensively, we were 37th last year, which was the worst we had done since 2008. We're now 99th now, we were I think 127th before the game last night.

I follow Pomeroy as much as anyone, but if you look at the teams in the top 50 the distribution statistically isn't that great. It only took Duke one game to go from about 25th to 67 defensively. If we made a couple more plays in Nova, Michigan, or against the Johnnies we might be 15th and not 45th.

 

[Knicks411]

We werent 2 when we lost to Dayton, its all about improving. This team has a ways to go but its showing some very positive signs, minus the McC injury

That's true, but we were 13th. Way ahead of where we are now.

I follow Pomeroy as much as anyone, but if you look at the teams in the top 50 the distribution statistically isn't that great. It only took Duke one game to go from about 25th to 67 defensively. If we made a couple more plays in Nova, Michigan, or against the Johnnies we might be 15th and not 45th.

To an extent. Duke got shredded last night defensively by a team that wasn't that great offensively prior to last night. (we dropped 16 spots defensively last night as well, fwiw)
If we had scored a few more points in those games you mentioned our overall ranking would have barely moved. The system doesn't see a 1 point win as all that different than a 1 point loss.

 

[SoBristol]

Big difference between last year and this -- Ennis was clutch in the final minutes of games during that 25-0 streak.

Unfortunately, that team relied heavily on a few key guys, with little depth. It became an issue.

 

[Hoov50]

2012-2013 2013-2014 2014-2015

• PPG 70.4 68.4 69.7
• 
  
• OPPG 58.7 59.3 59.0
• 
  
• POINT DIFF 11.7 9.1 10.7
• 
  
• FG% 0.439 0.430 0.442
• 
  
• FG% DEF 0.369 0.410 0.376
• 
  
• 3 PT % 0.334 0.337 0.326
• 
  
• 3 PT % DEF 0.284 0.342 0.278
• 
  
• FT% 0.675 0.706 0.662
• 
  
• RPG 38.4 35.4 38.8
• 
  
• OFF RPG 34.8 31.4 34.4
• 
  
• ASS PG 14.1 12.1 16.3
• 
  
• TO PG 12.4 9.0 12.4
• 
  
• B PG 6.2 5.0 5.5
• 
  
• STEALS PG 9.1 8.0 8.9

Sorry that this is so hard to read. It compares stats for '12-13, '13-'14 and to date this year. I was surprised how comparable, if not even better than last years' stats we stand to date. We are actually shooting a better FG% to date than last years' average. Our defense is even better statistically better this year, especially 3 point defense. We are recording more assists per game despite the youth/inexperience in the pure PG role of our main ballhandlers. Just thought it was interesting. Sometimes perceptions just aren't reality.

I know we haven't played the meat of the ACC schedule but some of these stats surprised me and realize that these numbers are certainly subject to change after playing the Louisvilles, UNC's, Dukes etc.

Putting it in numbers makes it "real," but I am not that surprised by the stats. Through 17 games last season, there were at least 4 we could have (and some would argue should have) lost. In fact 13-4 is probably about what last year's team really was, despite the 17-0 record.