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Message: [QUOTE="sufandu, post: 3141969, member: 874"] I think the frustration is with why it has hurt us this much. Two of those guys were seniors that we knew would be gone. There is turnover on every team every year. There should be guys developing behind the seniors that may exhibit a marginal drop off that improves with experience. This year has been more than a marginal drop off. We have assumed Dino has been upgrading the talent level. Have we not recruited the talent to replace the guys that graduated or have we not developed them? [/QUOTE]