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[QUOTE="chakka3421, post: 1817494, member: 1091"]
Interesting comments.  My take - HCDB is the first coach we have had since Coach P who had a well defined "system".  Grob, DM & Shaf were non head coaches who utilized the first couple of years to "figure it out".  The "Babers offense" is deeply rooted in the Baylor concepts developed under Briles, further developed and proven by Babers as a HC and Babers brings an established Tampa 2 defense that compliments his version of that offense.

I think we will see a big difference here versus the last 3 HCs.  Babers system will take (and has proven even Briles has been quoted this) average 2* and 3* players to play like high 3* and 4* level players over other average teams with average coaching staffs.  When we start bringing in more Devito type players on a more regular basis, we will see even greater performance. However, talent and depth will always be major factors holding us back from winning a conference title regardless of scheme or system until recruiting improves.

Regarding Shafer versus Babers, I too liked Shafer but I was very critical of him once he hired his "friends" over getting the best position coaches/recruiters in the business.  I forgot who he hired as our OL coach (Adam?) but he had no coaching experience at that position.  You may be able to do that in a non P5 conference but it's absolutely deadly in a P5 conference when you have to play elite teams.  You get crunched like we did and it showed and that falls on Shafers shoulders and no one else.

Babers immediately earned my highest respect when he replaced our S&C coach with one that "fit" his system (no negative on the former guy either who shall remain nameless).  That move alone should speak volumes to all of us regarding scheme & system.  Nuff said.
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