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Message: [QUOTE="kcsu, post: 134450, member: 528"] I have been with him outside of group settings only twice. Both times he was really nice i mean a great guy. However one of the people that we were with who really has been a huge part of the program for years since i was a little kid starting asking some specific questions. Doug changed and i could tell he didnt like being questioned at all. Not even a little bit and mind you this guy is major. I came away from that encounter thinking if Doug can respond to someone like this imagine how he is with the staff and players. Who knows maybe he was having a bad day and took it the wrong way but it struck a nerve with me. Add to that some of the things i hear and yes i think he is stubborn. Back to my original point sometimes it takes a very difficult situation to change someone. Five bad loses in a row might have been just what is needed to open him up a little. [/QUOTE]