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Message: [QUOTE="Willy75, post: 1517041, member: 277"] Unless we're talking about first or second round picks the point about getting drafted is not very persuasive, and we have had several guys in NFL camps and on practice squads. If Shafer wins 3 more games the critics will go away, even 2 (for now). If we drop 9 in a row, or lose 8 with some more really bad losses, or Dungey gets hurt running the ball like he did vs UVa, all bets are off re Shafer's future. Whatever anyone feels about Shafer the game planning for teams like FSU, Clemson, UL and BC can't have Dungey running the ball this much. [/QUOTE]