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Message: [QUOTE="Cusefan0307, post: 1990802, member: 1743"] I'm not talking about Boeheim here, I'm talking about Bernie Fine as related to Mike Hopkins. There's a legit faction of our fans that believe the reason our big's aren't good offensively is because Bernie Fine is not here. That's fine that McNeil and Forth were 3 star recruits. So was Arinze. He developed. They did not. My point was Bernie was not some 'miracle' big man coach that people thought he was. You say Roberts and Watkins were role players, but they weren't recruited to be role players. They were top 50 high school players that never developed here. People made excuses about Robert's knees and those same people will blantantly say Coleman has no post game because Bernie Fine is not here. [/QUOTE]