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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 5620860, member: 474"] I agree. But SU could have been 11- 1 last year, which is just as much a leap. Much like that same team could have been a 10-11 win team this year. It just shows injury luck matters but you still need to get past that 1-2 games to make it magical. And as good as run as it has been Michigan is down, Penn state was way down, OSU was not as dominant. Oregon is good not great and they missed USC/Wash/Mich. The timing was perfect storm to be pretty good and the league take step backwards And the same for SU really had we been solid, last year was almost magical. Shows how quick it can turn as PSU shows how fast it can go south. [/QUOTE]