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Message: [QUOTE="xc84, post: 644184, member: 1526"] Because Irish Americans like myself do not consider it derogatory nor should we. Even its historical roots are likely based on a very positive event or view of the Irish. It is not in the same vein as the term "redskin" which at the very least has been a derogatory term for the last century. The problem is not that a nickname references a group...it's that the nickname itself is a derogatory term used for that group. Not the case with "Fighting Irish" but is the case with "redskin". [/QUOTE]