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Message: [QUOTE="orangepassion, post: 5613502, member: 14"] I feel differently about a guy like Enrique Cruz who transferred out as an Upper Classman to get a chance to start. He clearly bled Orange and wanted to get on the field. That is far different than someone in Gill's situation, someone who was supposed to be a senior leader. Do people feel like Trebor Pena is "Orange"? I feel mixed at best about him and don't feel that connection like I do with a guy like Dungey who was there through it all. When a guy like Dungey or even Steve Ish comes back to visit and is on the Jumbotron, people will go crazy. I don't think people will feel that way about a guy like Trebor Pena (or Gill if he doesn't return), who by all accounts was a good kid, but bolted as soon as he had his first good year. [/QUOTE]