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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 934011, member: 716"] It would help everyone to learn more specifics of the proposal at issue. I think that's rather dismissive of Rubin's take, though - I found it more nuanced and persuasive than you did. He cites alternatives in the form of contrasting Syracuse's state handout with those in two other Upstate cities. This is speculative, but in a region that's auto-centric and has been, by and large, making the wrong planning decisions for a half-century, I believe that any stadium design would cut corners and have a chilling effect on adjacent development. Again, we'd need to learn specifics. [/QUOTE]